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title: "EP #136 Should AI Be Open-Sourced? The Debate That Will Shape Everything w/ Mark Surman"
description: Mark and Peter discuss why Open-Source is the future of AI, and how established companies should be thinking of AI.
---

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# [EP #136 Should AI Be Open-Sourced? The Debate That Will Shape Everything w/ Mark Surman](https://www.diamandis.com/podcast/mark-surman)

 Written by [Peter H. Diamandis](https://www.diamandis.com/podcast/author/peter-h-diamandis) | Dec 12, 2024 8:00:00 AM

In this episode, Mark and Peter discuss why Open-Source is the future of AI, and how established companies should be thinking of AI. 

*Recorded on Oct 15th, 2024*

*Views are my own thoughts; not Financial, Medical, or Legal Advice.*

Mark Surman serves as the President of the Mozilla Foundation. As President of Mozilla, he leads efforts to build a more open, equitable, and trustworthy internet, focusing on advancing ethical AI through initiatives like Mozilla.ai, a commercial AI R&D lab, and Mozilla Ventures, an impact venture fund. Previously, he spent 15 years as Executive Director of the Mozilla Foundation, growing it into a global force for digital rights, open-source advocacy, and internet health. A recipient of the prestigious Shuttleworth Fellowship, Surman has delivered keynotes on five continents and is regularly featured in major media outlets discussing the future of AI, open-source technology, and internet privacy.

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