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title: "EP #177 AI Experts Debate: Overhyped or Underhyped? (Opposite Opinions) Mo Gawdat & Steven Kotler"
description: Is AI overhyped or underhyped? Mo Gawdat and Steven Kotler face off with opposing views in this thought-provoking Moonshots episode with Peter Diamandis.
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# [EP #177 AI Experts Debate: Overhyped or Underhyped? (Opposite Opinions) Mo Gawdat & Steven Kotler](https://www.diamandis.com/podcast/ai-experts-debate)

 Written by [Peter H. Diamandis](https://www.diamandis.com/podcast/author/peter-h-diamandis) | Jun 13, 2025 7:00:00 AM

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Mo Gawdat is an author and former CBO of Google X. 

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